I can get an 03-04 z with 30-37k miles for about 15k negotiated, maybe less. This would save me about 100-110 a month in payments on the loan, not to mention id get 3k right now in cash.

The only reason i am considering this is because of 100x60 = 6000+3000 = 9000 and I know for a fact the g wont be worth 9k more than the z. I am not in any financial hardship, quite frankly i could afford a much larger payment than my 417 per month on the g. however, if i am going to save the additional 100 a month instead of spend it doesnt this seem like a smart move.

I do love the g, but i really love the performance more than the luxury aspect. I wont lose any performance with a switch to a z, and it looks like i will actually gain equity in the long term.

I stick it in her ATM.

Here's another way to look at what you said. If you sell the G and buy a 4 year old Hyundai, you'll save another 12 to 14 thousand too. So the better way to go is to sell the G and buy the Hyundai and be 100x60+13,000 or $19,000 ahead. You're obviously not doing that so why do the same thing with a Z?

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I say stick with the G

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I do see your point. The amount you owe and payments is suggestively similar to mine. And I have actually thought about the same idea, as I feel the Z might have a slightly better response than the G in terms of performance. Two things have discouraged me from doing so.

1. Insurance rates---having a backseat or not, can make a difference in insurance rates--sounds crazy but it is true.

2. You have an invaluable record of the maintenance history of your G, which you may be able to live with when something goes wrong, when compared to a car you have no idea how it has earlier been maintained.

3. Many Zs don't have leather seats---why trade leather for non-leather?

4. While the Z is handsome, the G is beautiful.

5. Since you are mere mortal, how are you sure you won't meet the love of your life tomorrow (that is if you don't have one now), who might have been happier with the back seat of the G compared to the no-backseat in the Z?

6. When kids come, a Z is a certain goner. But a case could be made to keep the G.

Most of all, if all these factors don't apply to you, and you want a no-frills performance based car, I would seriously be eyeing a Z. Sometimes, we all have to live out our bliss. Just my 2 cents.

I just saw an 06 350z with 15k miles no accidents/problems on ebay for $20,500. It went fast but there will be others.

I did install leather myself in my 03. it was cheap, easy, and looked great!

If you are going to do it I would sell the G yourself and find a 350Z from a private party.

just my .02

I stick it in her ATM.

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LOL

If you really think the Z is that much faster than do it.. I don't see how it is much faster than the G35 but what ever lol

The Z is fast but the G is SeX

DJ

"Take one G35. Remove badges. Add Toyota Prius badges. Presto, instant fuel mileage." ~audtatous

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So, your math shouldn't have been $100 savings * 60 months, because you aren't saving $100 for 60 months.. you're saving $100 for 40 months, then LOSING $320 for 20 months, because if you didn't make the deal, you'd be done paying your car off sooner.

The math you should have shown is this:

$3000 cash now + $4000 ($100/mo savings * 40 months) - 6400 (320 * 20 extra payments) = a net savings of 600 by switching to the Z...

Now, in 5 years, do you think the difference in value between the two cars is going to be more than $600?

Another way to look at it is this: The total amount of your remaining payments on the G is probably around $18k... Total payments on a Z @ $320 * 60 months is 19200..

So you're already upside down in the Z... and that's not factoring in the fact that you'll have to pay sales tax again, plus title and registration, plus added insurance for a sports car, plus any unexpected maintenance from an unknown car.

Add in the reasons everyone else mentioned, and it's not a fiscally sound idea, so unless you are just trying to justify making a change you emotionally want, I wouldn't change cars.

Why didn't telcoman beat me to the 401k math?

One other factor not mentioned yet... The G has a 4 year 60k mile warranty.. presumably you've got another year and 11k miles under warranty... The z's warranty is 3years/36,000 miles... meaning it has no warranty left. Buy an extended warranty, expect to spend $2,000 on it, making the deal even uglier.

Modified by badutahboy at 11:06 AM 6/12/2008

Modified by badutahboy at 11:08 AM 6/12/2008

"To a man with a hammer everything looks like a nail." -Mark Twain

Quote, originally posted by etschell »

luckily jacko i have a great girlfriend who loves my g,

Keep the back seat---serves more than one function to include reduced insurance rates and increased chance of becoming a potent baby making station.

Besides, who gets busy in the back seat of a coupe? They're hard enough to sit in, let alone Bow chicka wow wow...

Or you on a Diet

DJ

"Take one G35. Remove badges. Add Toyota Prius badges. Presto, instant fuel mileage." ~audtatous

Black 2006 G35 Sedan 6MT w/ Aero Package - Shark Fin - 19 inch Rims off the Coupe - K&N; intake - Coupe Mid Pipe - Black Side Markers - 15% tint all the way around - Polk Audio DB1000 Tweeters - 7000k Angel Eyes - And more to come!

1. You must be desperate - and be with a woman as desperate as you are.
2. You must be a midget or under 5'3.
3. You must live with your parents - because if you had your own place you would take shortie there instead of your back seat.
4. You must be broke - because you cant afford a hotel

I laugh every time someone mentions this notion.

I stick it in her ATM.

Keep the G

INMHO If one can afford it, buy the G new, don't lease, keep it for 10 years 100k miles while you save for your next vehicle. Sales tax, reg fees, interest payments, high insurance payments all help to keep you poor.
Most automobiles are what Sal on the Howard Stern show refers to as negative equity

Telcoman

2006 G35 6 Speed Manual Premium Package A Factory Sirius Radio 60.5k miles, original brakes. No mods required, I love her the way she came. Mod money goes to 401K. Regular 87 Octane, all the time. Last fillup 24.60 MPG

I'm 6'3" I can lose about 40lbs and then things start getting ugly. A normal BMI for me means I have to have little to no muscle and no fat

Quote, originally posted by Cali 2 Balti G »

No offense - but several conditions have to exist in order to get busy in the back seat of a G35 Coupe 1. You must be desperate - and be with a woman as desperate as you are. 2. You must be a midget or under 5'3. 3. You must live with your parents - because if you had your own place you would take shortie there instead of your back seat. 4. You must be broke - because you cant afford a hotel I laugh every time someone mentions this notion.

I must have one of those "perfect" wifes then lol.

We've devirginized my coupe, but I don't think I'd do it again. That center console thing in the back makes things quite ackward and the tiny opening to the trunk isn't much help either.

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